tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099360759204425129.post1759329533968251955..comments2023-10-26T00:56:09.286-07:00Comments on The Sage of Tampa: Let's Challenge Hollywood To Be TruthfulThe Sage of Tampahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02688739699475705479noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099360759204425129.post-84726896014110661002009-06-01T18:40:16.817-07:002009-06-01T18:40:16.817-07:00Do I back up, "factually", on the part o...Do I back up, "factually", on the part of "Christian" or "Europe and America"? And if you measure across the world which people we are talking about, it's rather clear, isn't it? I mean are we going to mistake Europe and America for... Hinduism? Are we going to mistake the Christians of India for the cultural expression normal in the Europe and America?<br /><br />That we have failed to fulfill the Teachings of Jesus is no more or less than Moslems failing to fully implement the Qur'an, or any scripture and it's religion. God sets a bar and we try to measure up and to the extent we do we achieve good and glory. And as much not of shame and sorrow.<br /><br />In this measure of an extreme history I don't mean to say that ONLY Christian Europe and America have devastated peoples. Indeed all peoples have done something of the kind. It's just that being the biggest powers in recent years, and enhanced by the recent rise of technology, we've done more of it, systematically, than anyone else has had a chance to do. I do not propose that others somehow would naturally have avoided what we've done, and the process is self-correcting with globalization albeit slowly and again painfully.<br /><br />Back to Islam, have you asked Muslims how they interpret what you are worried about?<br /><br />Why do so many maintain that the terrorists are not really reflecting the teachings of Islam?<br /><br />Have you learned anything of the history of the Middle East - do you imagine it has always been desert and camels and nothing more? Learn of the libraries and universities and schools of medicine and sanitary practice and public health. How did poetry flourish if the religion promised the promulgation of killing? Who wants such a thing? And yet Islam is the second most widespread religion on earth. It's not just going to go away. Let us engage in the truth indeed.SMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13268147821220493560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099360759204425129.post-69000347743029713902009-06-01T11:05:12.290-07:002009-06-01T11:05:12.290-07:00SMK- - -Don't want to gang up on you my friend but...SMK- - -Don't want to gang up on you my friend but Katsnip said it quite well. Whether Christians have succeeded in completely implementing the teachings of Jesus or not is- -although arguable- - hardly the point. Islam, via its most sacred text, calls for the murder of non-believers and the complete 'marginalization of women' (something Baha'is deplore).<br /><br />To hold Christianity responsible for the "disruption of hosts of cultures and peoples around the world" simply because the teachings of Jesus have not yet been completely and fully implemented is at best disingenuous and at its worst distracting from the task of eradicating evil. It's the moral equivalent of justifying one's own bad habits or behavior on the basis of similar or worse habits exhibited by others.<br /><br />Unfortunately, I have to call "B.S." on you and ask you to back up- -factually not emotionally- - your statement regarding: "Christian Europe and America and it's warlike devastation and downright evil disruption of hosts of cultures and peoples around the world." Remember, I said "factually" not emotionally so that means no statements beginning with "everyone knows that. . ." or "in my opinion. . ." Facts only, please.The Sage of Tampahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02688739699475705479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099360759204425129.post-65941741416071433642009-06-01T08:31:29.316-07:002009-06-01T08:31:29.316-07:00SMK,
You make a valid point, however I believe the...SMK,<br />You make a valid point, however I believe the Sage is referring to the fact the of all the world's great religions, ONLY Islam (through their holy book, the Quran) actually ENCOURAGES its adherents to kill other human beings. What mankind does in the name of religion as opposed to what the religion itself teaches is the point. Whoever the Muslims' god is, it isn't my God...remember, my God slew his only son to save us, while Allah asks his followers to slay their own children for him. Get the irony?Katsniphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14733328837943596831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099360759204425129.post-25336467907652565382009-05-31T11:07:04.677-07:002009-05-31T11:07:04.677-07:00Well B'hai is just wrong. The most proper has acce...Well B'hai is just wrong. The most proper has accents but those don't universally render on the internet - Bahá'í. <br /><br />I agree that Jesus' theology has much more about love in it. However I don't think you can as easily disconnect the history of Christian Europe and America and it's warlike devastation and downright evil disruption of hosts of cultures and peoples around the world. Perhaps if they had been more true to Jesus this wouldn't happened, but the failure to more completely implement Jesus' wishes is surely more on the hands of Christians than anyone else.<br /><br />Thanks for the tkaing the correction.SMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13268147821220493560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099360759204425129.post-85565334907425492662009-05-28T07:16:46.589-07:002009-05-28T07:16:46.589-07:00Well said, O Sage. Personally, I quit going to mo...Well said, O Sage. Personally, I quit going to movies because of the unbridled bias of Hollywood and think a total boycott of their products might get their attention.Katsniphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14733328837943596831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099360759204425129.post-85503194611438552382009-05-27T07:52:24.874-07:002009-05-27T07:52:24.874-07:00Nice try but "Onward Christian Soldiers" is a meta...Nice try but "Onward Christian Soldiers" is a metaphor for doing battle with Satan and evil in the world. Further, it is a song written by laymen. It is not part of the Biblical text. Thus not part of the "Holy Book" of Christianity the way that the exhortation to Jihad and its violent doings are a part of the Qur'an. But thanx for the correction on the spelling of Baha'i. Although I've seen it spelled at least 3 diffrent ways I think yours is the preferred spelling.<br /><br />The SageThe Sage of Tampahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02688739699475705479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099360759204425129.post-27886872499596419822009-05-26T13:03:13.036-07:002009-05-26T13:03:13.036-07:00Umm - "Of the world’s great religions Christianity...Umm - "Of the world’s great religions Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism and the lesser known Shinto and B’hai, only one of them- -Islam- - teaches it’s alright to kill/murder other human beings and actually offers a reward"<br /><br />1) not "B’ha" but "Baha'i" and<br />2) "Onward Christian soldiers..." but of course neither is what it used to be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com